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Old 04-14-2016, 02:09 AM
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A study in anti-smoker-infested San Francisco shows that smokers are less likely to be hired and make less money if they are. The study population looks like a pretty hard-luck group. Of the job seekers, "Just under a third (31.1%) had college degrees, 39.4% were unstably housed, 27.9% lacked reliable transportation, 20.7% had a criminal history, and 28.7% had received prior treatment for alcohol or drug abuse."

"A year after enrollment, 55.6% of nonsmokers were reemployed, compared with 26.6% of the smokers (adjusted risk difference, 0.20; 95% CI 0.15-0.42)."

And instead of protecting us against discrimination, the scumbags want to use it as another club to beat smokers over the head with.

Smoking May Be Hazardous to Job Prospects
by Salynn Boyles
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pulmonology/Smoking/57297

Prochaska JJ, et al "Likelihood of unemployed smokers vs nonsmokers attaining reemployment in a one-year observational study" JAMA Intern Med 2016; DOI: 10.1001/jamainternmed.2016.0772.
http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2513450
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Can they back up any of their figures with any solid evidence? 9 times out of 10 they do not have any. I was on a website and a woman posted an incident she had witnessed while a federal employee gathering statistics. She and another female were compiling deaths from smoking statistics, and they came across an account of a man who had died in a car accident who also happend to be a smoker; they listed his death as smoking related. They lie constantly trying to make people bend to their control. That is all this is; a power and control battle.
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In my area there is a hospital and 2 year college that will not hire a smoker no matter how qualified.

How is this any different than a century ago, "Irish need not apply"?

Or the Jim Crowe south with not hiring blacks?

Something to think about!
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It is interesting how discriminatory practices can be applied to certain groups and it is overlooked by Society. Two groups IMO subject to this non subtle experience now are smokers and people overweight. The justification being some combination of :
1) Its for your own good
2) If only You would change your behavior
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Isn't that the truth? The behavior of non-smokers is really what gets me; there's this haughty attitude of "If you would only change your behavior (as you pointed out), I would consider you acceptable". I would not associate with most of the people where I live if I didn't smoke! I have adopted the attitude that the smoke is welcome near me, people aren't.
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Just a repeat of history; you would think the lessons learned from Prohibition would serve as a reminder, but society is so dumbed down these days. . .
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In my area there is a hospital and 2 year college that will not hire a smoker no matter how qualified.

How is this any different than a century ago, "Irish need not apply"?

Or the Jim Crowe south with not hiring blacks?

Something to think about!
History always repeats itself
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The only thing I can suggest is, conceal your habit, no matter what it takes, until you are hired. Once you are hired and come out as a smoker, don't flaunt it, try to be discrete.
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The only thing I can suggest is, conceal your habit, no matter what it takes, until you are hired. Once you are hired and come out as a smoker, don't flaunt it, try to be discrete.
It isn't that easy when the employer tests for nicotine in your system.

How many of the businesses that test for nicotine do not test for illegal drug use?
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Some people have this urge to use their power to discriminate or dictate their tastes and preferences onto other people. It is uncivilized behavior, but that is hardly a new thing.

People eat all kinds of foods loaded with cholesterol, fat, sugar, etc. Some have high risk hobbies like riding motorcycles. We have no problem with refineries, chemical companies, and other industrial activities that could pose a health risk.

Before I took my current job 7 years ago, I was looking at some other positions. One was a data analytics job with a local hospital system. I took a look at the job posting and saw that they did not hire tobacco users and would test applicants. I didn't even bother trying to quit for however long it would take to temporarily pass such a test. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

A frequent justification for harassment of smokers is the protection the children. But I think that is just a cover story. I was once a kid myself back in the 1970s. I don't remember ever hearing other kids complain about their health being harmed from adults smoking. It was a fairly common adult activity that we just accepted. We didn't ride bicycles with crash helmets, either, something which I don't do now as an adult, either. Kids are smarter than people think. I think they know they are being used in this debate.
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