[scott62]

I usually always have some overhang on mine with the pm3. I got to where I just pinch it off with my fingertips and pack the end with my finger. I do get some stray baccy I have to empty out of my container packs but no big deal for me.I usually have less overhang with the 17mm zen tubes than the 20mm windsails. I have really started to like the windsail prestige gold tubes. The box is heavier and the tubes are very rugged and neutral tasting and seem to be a bit smoother than the zen tubes.