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Old 04-01-2010, 02:57 PM
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So, the white man does it again...as soon as the native americans got a good business up and running, they get screwed again with the signing of the PACT ACT...those shmucks in washington aren't going to get thrown out of office by raising taxes on cigarettes, so they'll just keep raising our taxes and now, we can't even buy our cigarettes online and through delivery by the mail, they should all have their butts whipped...they get paid to sit around and flap their gums, get perfect healthcare, and then call themselves "Honorable" - what BS!!
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No, Obama signed it so he can get another picture of himself to look at because he admires himself as much as a Socialist Dictator would. Those shmucks in D.C. all need to be replaced in November and make Obama into a "LameDuck" president. I'd love to see Obama suffer as being the leader of the "Minority". Wake up people! This bill stops the US Postal Service from delivering tobacco products to you! If they can do this legally (apparently, they think they can), your other favorite legal products can also be stopped from being delivered to you. Vote the bums out and get some hard core smoker politicians in there.
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So, the white man does it again...
Ha. I think he is not so white.
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I love the Orwellian name of the bill Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking why not pass a bill called Prevent All Drug Trafficking or Prevent All Sadness. As long as cigarettes cost more per pound than silver when they cost pennies to make how are they supposed to stop people from acting in their own interest. Instead of ordering from Native Americans people will get them from eastern europe, mexico, and china. What are they going to do throw everyone who orders them in prison and search every piece of mail Some people will grow your their own and give them to friends. Since it's legal and the government can't stop weed. If they got their wish and everyone quit every state would be in a budget crisis and they'd have to look for something else to tax. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why they hate e-cigs, and snus. All the anti-tobaco get their funding from lawsuits that take money from Big Tobacco who pass on the cost to smokers.
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I believe this will be one of many complaints you will see soon. Internetsmokes.com (TCL) has been a reliable source for ordering tobacco products.
Due to the PACT act, they sent out numerous e-mails reminding customers to get their orders in by June 21st. Upon receiving my last two orders (which were submitted prior to the deadline), the e-checks were promptly debited from my checking account. Upon making an inquiry yesterday as to why the orders have not arrived, I received an e-mail today stating that Assistant US Attorney William Houser has launched an investigation into all smoke shops. CheckCare transactions have been restricted and no refunds will be made until CheckClear can release funds. I was provided a number to call which was for US Attorney Houser's office. I was directed to a recording that stated that as of June 22nd, funds were seized and it could result in forfeiture. It went on to say the first hearing would be within 60 days of June 22nd but noted that will probably be delayed. It suggested the customer might want to seek an attorney.

I have been in e-mail conversation with Internetsmokes.com and they say their hands are tied. I suggest that the company has assets which are not frozen and should making refunds immediately. I also found out the company had never called the number they provided to actually see what the recording said.
I contend that my money and that of others was debited from our accounts prior to any product even being prepared for shipment. I believe Internetsmokes.com needs to begin refunding money to its customers and not use the excuse of an investigation to hold our funds. If anyone has additional information on this subject, please leave comments. Thanks

The number for Mr. Houser's Office is 570-348-2800 Ext 244
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Originally Posted by Devon Andrews View Post
No, Obama signed it so he can get another picture of himself to look at because he admires himself as much as a Socialist Dictator would. Those shmucks in D.C. all need to be replaced in November and make Obama into a "LameDuck" president. I'd love to see Obama suffer as being the leader of the "Minority". Wake up people! This bill stops the US Postal Service from delivering tobacco products to you! If they can do this legally (apparently, they think they can), your other favorite legal products can also be stopped from being delivered to you. Vote the bums out and get some hard core smoker politicians in there.
The shittier thing is that Obama was and or still is a Marlboro Red smoker...REALLY? What the hell!!!
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I hope Obama,s brand name cigarette comes to the market soon..lol
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