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Old 06-27-2009, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cooljay788 View Post
As long as governemnts, politicians and antismoking orgs like the American Cancer Society all live off of smokers' money (via tobacco sales), keep on dreaming if you think the govt will ever make tobacco illegal.

If more smokers switched to making their own cigs or Native brands, at least they wouldn't be giving politicians and anti orgs money anymore...since they would stop buying BT brands.

I agree tobacco should be illegal based on how anti this society is towards smoking. But if they make tobacco illegal, then you might see a Big Mac costing as much as 10 bucks, to make up for the fact the govt couldn't collect money off of smokers anymore.

I guess the only tobacco that WOULD be illegal are the big name brands...those are the brands the govt lives off of in terms of sales. Not Native brands or tobacco used to make your own.

I know, right? My question is: what about the fast food industry or something? All of these health freaks bitch about smoking is bad for your health- I'd say eating all of this fast food is just as bad. I say next, we try and ban Burger King, Mcdonalds, Taco bell, etc. for making Americans fat and obese? First, we should tax the shit out of it to make people pay more though.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:35 PM
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No shit. This is getting so ridiculous. I have a 4 yr. old daughter and get extremely rude comments just walking down the street with my daughter near me smoking a cigarette, I am EXTRA careful she does not ever inhale.. any smoke and keep the cig away from her but apparently I am still hte devil himself for doing such a thing to my daughter. Then, my parents bitch at me all the time while they smoked half their lives...they quote "well we didnt know how bad it is for us. It can kill you...duh...so can cars but we drive half of our lives. Might as well just put us in a cage and let us out when we are done with our cancer stick.

So, try the new e-cigarettes. I am curious about other kinds, only tried Blu and they aren't quite the same but hell, at least you don't have to go hide outside behind the trash bin smelling rotting food at a restaurant because they claim the air 25 feet away has to be smoke free....HA!

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Originally Posted by CamelMan324 View Post
Go sit somewhere else if the smell bothers you so much! I swear, people these days need to grow a damn brain.
Hmm, but you are forcing me to inhale your fumes... I cannot escape that whithout going somewhere else and You cannot possibly mean that You have more right to that spot than I do for the sole reason that you were there first.
If it's a public spot it's like public, duh! and for everyone not just the select click that enjoys your smoke... ponder this: if i were to stroll up to where you're sitting and just scream on the top of my lungs in your ear...
would that be okey!? I am polluting the air too... ;-)
You go somewhere else and smoke your cigarette and then come back!

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Old 04-03-2010, 08:41 AM
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Being an antismoker or antis/th is a psychological problem. Every reasonable man respects the other people's freedom.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:59 AM
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Default My answer is ANTI-SMOKERS.

At the meantime, Simon Clark, director of Forest (Freedom Organization for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco), proved that cases of asthma had been rising as the number of smokers had fallen. I think that the same situation is with cancer cases as well. The smoking problem is so overstated just because they want to make high revenues from cigarette taxes.
YOu are asking who is truly selfish - the SMOKERS OR THE ANTI-SMOKERS...just try to analyze - they banned smoking in the public places, bars; they are going to ban smoking in all kinds of vehicles, they increase taxes for cigarettes tremendously.
And show me at least one person who died from second-hand smoking harm!!!!
These evidences show that the answer is obvious.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:20 PM
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I've been smoking for 25 years. Individual non-smokers and ex-smokers no longer bother me. The lobby against smoking does bother me quite a bit. The way I look at it, "It is MY right to still smoke outside (the only place where smoking is still allowed)"

Outside a suite at the Indy 500, there were about 3 people out of 50 that smoked. I stood outside, lit up my cigarette, and dared anyone to tell me to put it out. After about 20 people went inside the suite I asked the man next to me if he wanted to light up a cigar so we could have a better view of the cars, ie more people would leave. No one yet has the nerve to ask me to put it out and if anyone ever does I have a response ready, "Can you still smoke outside? Or have you outlawed that too?"
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Cool try living in the frozen tundra of the US....

where there is a ban everywhere here and it is 0 degrees or colder approx. 7 months out of the year and you have to go outside to have a cigarette...AND, of course, as people come towards the bar entrance they immediately complain about the smell. HELLO, I am freezing to death because of these kinds of "selfish" people. I was lucky enough to have lived in a state that did not have a ban up until last year before moving to the tundra THEN there is the HUGE tax (we all know who is responsible for that...the NON-smokers) in the bars and cigs are up to $9 a pack at bars since they need to be able to have a tobacco license and can't make money if they don't charge that much apparently.

Anyway, SMOKE ON fellow smokers and don't be afraid to blow smoke directly into the faces of the "selfish" ones who, in 1 generation, have decided we are outcasts of society

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The anti-smokers are selfish because they expect us to cowtow to their stupid nosiness.
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I agree.

The UK however, has it good compared to alot of US states such as Cali. LA has notoriously poor air quality and people moan about fag smoke. Get a grip I say.

I was once sat in a cafe bar, on the Gloucester Rd, a busy A Road with huge amounts of pollution. There were two young middle class girls both with small children. I lit a cigarette and they came over to me and said 'You really are a nasty piece of work, my daughter was born with a collapsed lung, she can't breathe smoke from your disgusting mouth'. My response was calm 'if your daughter is in poor health because of a collapsed lung, may I suggest 3 things'
'Go on, I love listening to obnoxious smokers trying to justify their suicide'
' 1. take your child out of the smoking area, 2. Listen to the weather report, there is a pollution warning out, and it strongly reccommends that people with ailments of the respiritory system do NOT go outside, because it can irritate symptoms, 3. If your child being exposed to dirty air bothers you, go and live on an island somewhere'.
' She stood there and looked at me for a minute and said 'there's a smog warning'?

You see, people pick on smokers because they are encouraged to do so by the NHS, true think-for-yourself types draw their own conclusions, only idiots listen to the TVs opinion on everything.

30% of the UK smoke, NHS and other healthcare names try to say its less, but all independant surveys show 30-34%. 30% is not to be sniffed at, its a fair whop, 20 million people, the can't do anything more because people would just use that beautiful 2 letter exclaimation, 'no'.

Think, who is crazy enough to ban smoking from beer gardens? The whole point of them these days is to provide seating for smokers. If they did this, there would be massive outcry and it would have to be U-turned.
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The limit of our smoking rights is simply one amongst the various different thousand rights we have a tendency to are being denied of, initial off the u. s. of America was born on cotton and tobacco, tobacco is that the foundation of this nice nation

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