[fullflava]

Has anyone seen this site for protecting our rights online to purchase cigarettes. It is a legal product and they keep trying to charge me more and more for cigarettes in Texas, enough is enough!

[Chief Smoker]

Nice, we need more organizations that voice the rights of smokers.

Thanks fullflava

[barfly]

It is my belief that this [url=http://www.oltra.org]Welcome to Oltra.org[/url] website and organization got launched just a bit too late for the fiasco that went down (in 2003?) when the politicians and the anti-tobacco groups moved to change the Jenkins Act and used that to shut off all the "Mom and Pop" online retail sites. They basically put a bunch of American citizens out of work and ruined more lives than they saved. Plus they increased sales for the "OffShore" tobacco retailers. It effectively shut down all the online tobacco sales for the "White Man" tobacco sites. The Native American sites also received a hefty increase in their own sales volumes from the resulting "reduction" in the number of online retailers.

To its credit, [url=http://www.oltra.org]Welcome to Oltra.org[/url] miraculously aligned ALL of the US Native American Tribes that were in the online tobacco retail business, by organizing them to adhere to set of "Standards" concerning the sales and delivery of tobacco products in the United States and beyond. Many of the Native American sites still carry the oltra.org logo on their sites and all of the Native sites that were a part of Oltra in the beginning are still adhering to the standards of the [url=http://www.oltra.org]Welcome to Oltra.org[/url] organization.

I hope that this continues and that the politicians that make our laws would please not throw away the tobacco jobs of Native Americans in the online tobacco business. This is a legitimate enterprise and it benefits all 65 million US smokers. It also very much benefits distribution states' departments of taxation. This is where states need to come together and "Share" the tax revenues, instead of shutting down the legitimate enterprise. Anyone that says children are getting tobacco products in this new age is a LIAR. The successful abolition of online tobacco products will only hurt people more than it will help AND it is not fair. I am also sick of having to pay out of this world prices for my cigarettes. Soon as I can't do it online any longer, I will either quit smoking or have a heart attack or suck it up and pay through the nose.

[cooldude]

Kids shouldn’t smoke cigarettes, but what is the best way to discourage underaged smoking? The tobacco industry is working hard to enforce minimum age standards by pushing retailers to require proof of age at the time of purchase. Despite hysteria from the anti-smoking establishment on this matter, cigarette advertising does not target young people.

Saying we need high taxes on cigarettes to discourage teenagers from smoking is dishonest, since most teenage smokers don’t buy their cigarettes, and get them instead from parents and adult friends. It is unfair to impose dramatically higher taxes on the adults who buy 95 percent or more of all cigarettes sold in order to make cigarettes less attractive to the few teenagers who actually pay for their cigarettes.

[Eddie H]

All of the online retailers I have used in the last few years, require me to jump through all kinds of hoops to get my cigarettes. They won't take an order from me until they verify my phone, my ss number, my address, my age - they have to have a copy of my driver's license faxed to them and I have to have a checking account in my name. Plus it takes them a couple of weeks to verify all. Ain't no kids getting cigarettes online. Anybody that says they did or do is probably a liar. There should be a law against anti-smoking groups making false claims about who is getting tobacco products online. I AM