[cooljay788]

You'll usually find the "FSC" letters inside of the pack's bar code (off to the side of the pack) on most FSC brands. Like on Marlboro packs and Newport packs. Other FSC brands, like Winston, have "FSC" on the bottom of the pack I believe.

I actually tried a FSC Marlboro Red once, and that piece of crap didn't even come close to tasting like a normal Marlboro Red at all. It tasted like I was smoking cardboard and not tobacco at all.

I heard online that Marlboro FSCs contain pieces of wood in em. I was ROFL when I first read that.

[Rodwy]

I looked at the pack of Luckies I just bought, they FSC writing was on the bottom near the edge, and on the empty crushed pack of Crush it was on the bottom near the edge in the blue area.

Sneaky bastards.


I tend not tho throw empty packs out for a while and just leave them sitting in my backpack.

[cooldude]

Where is the FDA when they are adding new more poisonous chemicals to cigarettes in order to make them fire-safe. Are they really firesafe at all? How come it takes years for the government to get new additives approved but with this it sails on through? I guess they did it without getting permission first huh? I know they put caps on lawsuits where I live but the number of lawsuits will go up from this so where is the savings from that? I wish I could put more poisonous substances in the NY governors cereal (he don't smoke) without FDA approval. That would be sweet payback indeed!

[cooljay788]

I know all brands made by PM and RJR are fire-safes, as well as Newport, my favorite non-Native brand. I neva noticed me re-lighting a FSC Newport, let alone the cherry end falling off of my Newports as I smoke em.

I tried a few Newports recently, and while they did give me tiny headaches, the lit ends neva fall off of the cigs as I smoked.

I think by the end of 2009, most Big Tobacco brands will be FSCs.

[barfly]

I noticed Pall Mall Lights 100s going out for no reason lately but, I don't see any letters anywhere on the pack of FSC or any other letters that might alert me that these are the new poisonous cigs. No headaches. Cigs are going out on their own more easily than before. Basic brand cigs still burning all the way through after being lit and smoked. The Pall Malls now go out in my hand before the next drag they are so bad.

[cooljay788]

Originally Posted by barfly I noticed Pall Mall Lights 100s going out for no reason lately but, I don't see any letters anywhere on the pack of FSC or any other letters that might alert me that these are the new poisonous cigs. No headaches. Cigs are going out on their own more easily than before. Basic brand cigs still burning all the way through after being lit and smoked. The Pall Malls now go out in my hand before the next drag they are so bad.

Those sound lke FSCs bud (on the Pall Malls)

Pall Malls are made by RJR now I believe. And if I'm right, I definitely know RJR is now making ALL of their brands FSCs.

Did you look on the bottom of the Pall Mall pack? I hear "FSC" can be found on the bottom of Winston packs...the same might be true for your Pall Mall 100s pack.

[Rodwy]

Originally Posted by barfly I noticed Pall Mall Lights 100s going out for no reason lately but, I don't see any letters anywhere on the pack of FSC or any other letters that might alert me that these are the new poisonous cigs. No headaches. Cigs are going out on their own more easily than before. Basic brand cigs still burning all the way through after being lit and smoked. The Pall Malls now go out in my hand before the next drag they are so bad.

Look at the bottom near the edges, the letters FSC should be stamped in black I believe.

Yes black on that dark red packaging is hard to see.

[Eddie H]

Yes black on that dark red packaging is hard to see.

The Pall Mall Lights 100s come in a "rounded corner" blue colored box, not red. The full flavor ones are in a red wrapper. I didn't see any markings on any of my packs and I looked really hard with a magnifying glass. Maybe my Florida town hasn't gotten the Pall Mall FSCs yet. I switched to Natives' Texas Republic brand recently so I don't have to worry for now.

[m.daven]

Originally Posted by admin Has anyone else noticed Marlboro now makes their cigarettes so they burn out if you leave them sitting too long? I think they call them self-extinguishing now and they don't taste the same. I've not started ordering online from an indian reservation to get my old taste!

I cannot figure out why they would or how they did change the entire world population of smokers from enjoying to now being a question of (do I have to?) I didn't like paying the prices before, but I feel like we just received the new formula of Coke. I can pay the prices, but dont mess with the flavor. They are not in anyway satisfying and to look for FSC?? I would rather look for the miles.

[jimyj7]

I've been smoking 30 years. I live in Arizona where we just started getting Fire Safety Cigarettes.
For three weeks I was constantly getting ill, and having never heard of fire safe cigs, had no idea why. I immediately noticed my cigs (Marlboro reds) kept going out, not in a few minutes, more like every 30 seconds, Very annoying.
My dad a 50 year smoker called me one day to say his cigarettes, (Marlboro Light 100's), kept going out, and tasted awful. So I e-mailed Phillip Morris asking "What's going on"?. I googled, 'Marlboros keep burning themselves out'. I was appalled at what I saw. Web sites, blogs, and forums abounded with smokers complaining about getting sick from smoking these FSC cigarettes.
I couldn't believe our government would force a product on its citizens that were making smokers across the country sick. Didn't anyone bother too do some research on the health impact of these new 'safer' (not) cigarettes?
I immediately went to my vendor, and after searching there inventory found and bought five cartons of regular not FSC cigarettes, (labeled above the bar code). Within two days of smoking regular Marlboro's my illnesses subsided, and after a week I felt like my old self again.
Now I will have to start buying them online from companies in North Carolina, a state that still offers regular cigarettes that don't make me sick. After that I will buy them from Russia if I have too, or search out a black market, as I'm sure they will be popping up real soon.
Fire prevention agencies claim it will save 700 to 1,000 lives per year. New York Department of State did a study in New York State, a state which has mandated FSC for four years now, and found that deaths did drop from 31 deaths to 22 deaths in 2004.
Harvard School of medicine said that five compounds in the FSC cigarettes had increased in toxicity, but there was no evidence that these increases affect the already toxic nature of cigarette smoke.
OH REALLY, then why am I finding smokers all over the internet complaining they're getting sick? , I know they made me sick.
Those entities that are pushing this garbage on us didn't even have the courtesy to tell us smokers what they were doing.
These 'speed bump rings' that are incorporated into the paper, has increased amounts of a glue produced by DuPont used to adhere carpet, and is very toxic, (Adhesive ethylene vinyl acetate).
First our government unjustly targets smokers with a huge tax burden of 500% the past ten to fifteen years, now there going to poison us.
Did I mention the taste? These RSC taste terrible, another factor I’m reading from smokers across the country online. The amber or (cherry) at the end of the cigarette doesn't burn the same and allows too much air to mix with the smoke, and you can't get enough taste. So you end up drawing on them repeatedly trying to get a good full drag. You end up with uneven burning and ambers falling all over the place. Seems to me this is going to cause 'More Fire Hazard'. Also the constant relighting causes the paper to ignite into a real flame, and has even blown up in my face, and I only smoked a few packs of them.
New York States 2004 study claims nine lives were saved. Nation wide that would be 450 lives per year, less than the number of people a 'month' who die from tripping and falling down. But it's okay to make thousands of smokers’ nationwide sick. How many smokers a year will die now from the higher toxicity in the paper, only time will tell…
If we allow these non smoking advocates to 'dictate' what we consume, were will it end?
There's still as many non smokers dying each year of lung cancer and heart disease as smokers, considering the high levels of pollution in our cities nationwide. Maybe next they'll blame smokers for that too.
James Whitehorne Phoenix Az. May 29, 2009
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