[Marlboro27]

Hey all, just registered here.

So, in 2004 and 2005 I smoked Marlboro No. 27 - loved those cigarettes. Well then I got married and quit smoking for 3 years and eventually got divorced (long story) and started smoking again. Obviously, I went back to the Marlboro 27s that I loved. But something was different...

Whenever I smoked the 27s, it made me feel nauseous and sick. I felt like I was having panic attacks and I never used to feel that way before. So I thought maybe it was just gonna take some getting used to again. But even after I while, I was still feeling sick.

I also noticed that I had to puff on the cigarette several times to keep it lit in between taking actual drags. I don't remember having to do that in the past. The paper was burning really weird. I also had a strange taste in my mouth whenever I'd breathe out of my nose - something I don't recall back when I smoked before I quit.

Today I finally found out about FSC and it explains EVERYTHING. These cigarettes are complete shit and I almost want to quit again because of the FSC paper.

Question: If I bought Galouises or Dunhill at a local smoke shop here in California, would they have FSC paper on it because it's sold in the U.S.?

[lalu]

I had a similar experience, except it had been almost 20 years since I smoked. For me the FSC did something to my lungs that never happened before, so I investigated and discovered the FSC boondoggle.

My understanding is that if your state has passed FSC legislation, ALL cigarettes sold there must be FSC. I recently bought a carton of Native cigarettes thinking they would not be FSC. But they were.

My way around this is to re-roll the cigs using my own papers and the filters and tobacco from the cigs. A hassle, for sure, but no FSC.

Good luck!

[Marlboro27]

Wow, re-rolling is a hassle... and a damn shame. I hope this FSC bullsh*t gets sorted sooner or later.

[wipeout97]

There are many choices for a taste similar to marlboro 27. I would look at buffalo cigarettes. It's all natural but I think you'll end up liking them better.

[Marlboro27]

Originally Posted by wipeout97 There are many choices for a taste similar to marlboro 27. I would look at buffalo cigarettes. It's all natural but I think you'll end up liking them better.

Do Buffalo cigarettes have FSC paper?

[lalu]

I ordered the Native brand cigarettes because I thought they were not FSC. When they arrived I found out they do have the FSC paper. It may be a matter of where you order them from, if you order them online.

I ordered from a site located in New York and owned by the Seneca nation. I later found out the Seneca nation announced that all cigarettes they make or SELL will have FSC paper.

So good luck with the Buffalo brand. If anyone knows where you can buy the Native brand without FSC paper, I would like to know.

[wipeout97]

Originally Posted by Marlboro27 Do Buffalo cigarettes have FSC paper?

I don't believe so, if you type in the site in google it will direct you to a site also selling blackhawk cigarettes out of California. The lady who runs the site is fully against fsc so she would be happy to ensure you do not get it .

All Senecas are now FSC so it's hard to say you could find non-stale ones still around made prior to FSC. You can however locate Canadian packs (identified with the maple leaf on the packs). They are non-fsc to my knowledge but do have additional chemicals to match Canadians taste buds better :/.

[Marlboro27]

Originally Posted by wipeout97 I don't believe so, if you type in the site in google it will direct you to a site also selling blackhawk cigarettes out of California. The lady who runs the site is fully against fsc so she would be happy to ensure you do not get it . All Senecas are now FSC so it's hard to say you could find non-stale ones still around made prior to FSC. You can however locate Canadian packs (identified with the maple leaf on the packs). They are non-fsc to my knowledge but do have additional chemicals to match Canadians taste buds better :/.

It's sad that it has come to this: in order to get decent tasting cigarettes without the sickening FSC paper, a smoker has to go through so many hoops and ladders.

I called a few tobacco shops here in Los Angeles and they all say the same thing, "If it's sold in California, it has to have FSC paper." I guess ordering from another state, or perhaps even another country, is the only solution. A friend of mine just spent several months in Europe - I should have asked him to buy me a few cartons of Galouises Blondes or something!

Thanks for everyone's input.

[wipeout97]

Just remember that Indian reservations only have to abide by "some" rules.....(wink wink).

[storrs19]

I just received an email from my online supplier of cigarettes. As per January 1, 2010 ALL cigarettes will be FSC (thanks Brako, I bet yours won't be though). Most brands will be shipping FSC only by November 1st or so. Stock up now if you can afford it is all I can say. I have 12 cartons of Marlboro and will order another 10 tomorrow. I hope to have about 40 on hand by November 1st which will hold me for 40 weeks. Non-FSC cigarettes stay fresh much longer than FSC ones. To all the idiots who started this s**t, I hope you are happy in ruining one of the few pleasures I have left in this rotten world. Thanks a lot.

Chad