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Old 10-14-2011, 12:04 PM
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That's the newest Camel product from Japan Tobacco A strong version of Camel cigarettes,in a more American Blend taste like Marlboro. Sold as a King Size version in Western Europe.
In Eastern Europe they used the same design for a light slim cigarette.
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Nice! Do you know anywhere they sell these online? I would love to try them.
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They sell them in my country as well, king size in a funny push & slide box. A good cigarette, more medium than light. Slower burning than Camel Blue which is a good thing.
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Here in Greece is in a reqular box and it's stronger than Camel Filters. Nic. 0,9 Tar 10.

I found online only the light slim version from Ukraine which is not recommended.
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In Croatia Filters are 08/10 and Black is 07/8.
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Filters are 0.8 and 10 and here,we have also the Camel White variety which is 0,7 and 8.
Anyway,are available in Croatia, cigarettes with higher levels than the maximum of 1,0 Nic and 10 Tar? After the faschists of EU put that levels,i can't satisfy any brand. Also are available any traditional oriental cigarettes?
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Originally Posted by Petr_4 View Post
Filters are 0.8 and 10 and here,we have also the Camel White variety which is 0,7 and 8.
Anyway,are available in Croatia, cigarettes with higher levels than the maximum of 1,0 Nic and 10 Tar? After the faschists of EU put that levels,i can't satisfy any brand. Also are available any traditional oriental cigarettes?
You hit a soft spot here, other than Dunhill International which is 1,0/10 all other full flavor cigarettes are 0,8/10 or in some rare exceptions 0,9/10 (Gauloises Blondes and a few more).
I still claim that good old Marlboro Reds were better when they were 0,9/12 than with the current nicotine & tar levels (0,8/10), same goes for Camel Filters.
EU fascist regulations didn't hurt light cigs that much as they did normal cigarettes.
As far as oriental cigarettes are concerned, nothing available.
In Croatia Camel White is 0,5/6 while Camel Blue is 0,6/8 (standard level for lights here)
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Originally Posted by ianus View Post
You hit a soft spot here, other than Dunhill International which is 1,0/10 all other full flavor cigarettes are 0,8/10 or in some rare exceptions 0,9/10 (Gauloises Blondes and a few more).
I still claim that good old Marlboro Reds were better when they were 0,9/12 than with the current nicotine & tar levels (0,8/10), same goes for Camel Filters.
EU fascist regulations didn't hurt light cigs that much as they did normal cigarettes.
As far as oriental cigarettes are concerned, nothing available.
In Croatia Camel White is 0,5/6 while Camel Blue is 0,6/8 (standard level for lights here)
When i started smoking in the 90s,we didn't have maximum levels,so the standart for a ciagrette was 1,1 Nic and 14 tar, it was available also traditional unfiltered cigarettes with 18 tar. Today all cigs are weak and with different low quality blends.Camel used to be great,when RJR was the producer.After JTI took the brand's rights(and Wiston's) changed the pack+and blend. My all time favorites was Dunhill International(1,2 and 14) and Rothmans(1,1 and 15).Today the same brands are a joke.Dunhill is too weak and tasteless.
Anyway,someone told me that in Croatia is available George Karelias Excellence(1,0 and 10),ιn any case the best Greek brand and on of the top-5 worldwide(except the US,where the cigarettes are out of competition),give them a try if you find them.
Oh, while i was travelling,i found a Croatian brand called Walter Wolf.Which is your opinion about that brand?
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JTI Camel is still OK but Winston suck big time. Karelias products are really great, both Superior and Excellence. I am a Reds smokers but I'll take Camel Blue before Filters any day, it used to be the other way around. I still hope that one day PMI will reintroduce Marlboro Reds Soft back on the market.
As far as Walter Wolf is concerned, it is one of the most popular brands in Croatia (along with Ronhill), I like them more than Ronhill and they are not that dry. WW Lights/or whatever it is called these days is a decent cigarette while full flavor is considered a strong hardcore cigarette. In my opinion it is the only full flavor cigarette that Tobacco Factory Rovinj got right, they make decent lights and super lights but Walter Wolf is the only good full flavor cig they produce. Still it was also a far better cigarette before all these imposed tar & nicotine levels.
I remember old Dunhill International, it is a good cigarette now but it used to be great. How many times I crushed that box while working (used to keep it in my back pocket)
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