[cooljay788]

So when 1000s of businesses close in smoking ban areas throughout the nation, that has no effect on the economy whatsoever? Not even a minor effect on the economy?

It isn’t hard to figure out when more smokers avoid going to taverns and clubs due to those places being smoke-free, that makes the owner lose revenue money (unless lots of nonsmokers visit those places to make up for the loss of smoking patrons).

And when say a bar owner loses money and customers, that effects the sales going on within the bar industry as a whole. Especially if you multiply that by 100s of other smoke-free bars who have lost customers.

And when an owner loses money after a certain period of time, that owner has to find a way to survive with the business, or basically lay off the workers and close up the bar for good. And that closed up bar doesn't have a small effect on the nation's economy.

Maybe if only one hospitality business in the whole nation closed up due to a smoking ban causing the owner's business to drop, I can see smoking bans not having a direct connection with the nation's economy problems then. But since 1000s of business have closed in the USA over the years due to smoking bans, you can't igonore the fact smoking bans play a role in hurting the nation's economy.

I wanna ask the antis where the heck are the nonsmokers at filling up the taverns, bars, and even the restaurants every single day and night if smoking bans are NOT a factor in the nation's economy problems? Nonsmokers got their wish of smoke-free businesses. But they don't wanna support the owners on a regular basis by patronizing the businesses?

I'm sure if smoking was allowed in those places, smokers would be in there every day and night, and I mean REAL smokers (as well as a few real SOCIAL smokers). And then someone WOULD be right in saying I can't use the hospitality industry as a reason for the nation's economy problems then.

I remember a McDonald's in downtown of my city that used to be PACKED with mostly smokers every single day and night. And in 2002 when that restaurant decided to ban smoking, that's when you would be lucky to see a full house of people eating in there at all.

I've seen it for myself where when you ban smoking, the smokers won't bother in coming back to the restaurant at all. That McDonald’s I referred to is now gone. They closed up for good in 2003. They obviously lost a lot of customers with having a smoke-free restaurant.

And smoking bans don't have an effect whatsoever on the nation's economy?